2011.09.11 DELL releases nice new Vostro 3555 laptop Llano laptop starting at $459…
2011.09.06 (33) sweet new BLACK unlocked edition Fusion APUs near release!!!
AMD Fusion Black Edition APUs will come in 2 flavours | KitGuruhttp://www.kitguru.net/site-news/highlights2/jules/amd-fusion-black-edition-apus-will-come-in-2-flavours/Arguably the most interesting will be the new Black Edition versions of the Fusion APU. Yep, that’s right, there’s an S on the end of the word ‘version’. [...] Originally, we only expected to see an A8 chip standing on a street corner with its clocks unlocked – looking for some dirty O/C action. Now it appears that the A8′s…
2011.07.12 (#2) added new Gateway’s NV55S in the laptop section…
011.07.12 (#1) some super low prices for desktop motherboards and some preliminary info on the triple core Llano chip! (see lower down the page for the X3 info…)
AMD A75 motherboards cheap as chipshttp://www.fudzilla.com/motherboard/item/23376-amd-a75-motherboards-cheap-as-chipsAMD Llano Fusion desktop motherboard ECS A75F-M2 for as little as US $59.9!
2011.07.05 retail availability of more Llano/Lynx desktop parts at Tigerdirect and NewEgg! See desktop section below…
2011.06.30 added more great articles on desktop Llano parts and OVERCLOCKING…
2011.06.29 added PRICES for the Desktop retail CPUs and estimated release date (July 3rd).
2011.06.28 added the first IN STOCK Llano laptop, available now! and rumors of it being August before many other models hit the stores?! Scroll down to find out more…
2011.06.25 added new Asus Llano motherboard!
2011.06.24 new motherboards listed and OVERCLOCKING results!
AMD has a special spot in my heart as they are the underdog I love to cheer for! Now don’t get my wrong, I have nothing against Intel. Intel generally makes great CPUs. However, AMD has hung in there a long time and has even managed to occasionally beat Intel at their own game (like back in the Pentium 4 vs Athlon & early Xeon vs Opteron days). But Intel generally learns from their mistakes so AMD gets relegated back to the price/value segment (as opposed to keeping the high-end crown).
+AMD was founded in May of 1969, Intel was founded in July 1968. Source: Wikipedia, The Modern Historian.
+They also have a very long history of legal battles…
However, after decades of playing second fiddle to Intel
, AMD did something a little different
back in 2006. They bought ATI.
ATI was a Canadian graphics chip maker and the classic competitor to NVIDIA. A lot of people wondered at the wisdom of AMD buying a video card company. The ATI name was eventually abandoned and the AMD has continued to make and market separate CPUs and video cards.
+ATI stood for “Array Technologies Incorporated”.
+The Wii uses an ATI chip and the Wii’s successor (Wii U) will be using an AMD chip.
Earlier this year, however, AMD introduced the Brazos “APU”. More info here:
But Brazos was simply the first entry in a line of “Fusion” APUs for AMD:
The AMD Fusion™ Family of APUshttp://sites.amd.com/us/fusion/apu/Pages/fusion.aspxThe AMD Fusion™ Family of APUs The AMD Fusion APU (Accelerated Processing Unit) gives software developers the power to unleash their imaginations…
So, what the heck is an APU?! The APU is a combined CPU (central processing unit) and GPU (graphics processing unit). Instead of a computer manufacturer having to source a CPU (example: AMD Phenom) and a GPU (example: NVIDIA GTX 460) they can simply go to AMD and get an “all in one” package.
Why does this matter?! It matters because AMD is promising to bring decent CPU performance and good GPU performance together, all at a low-cost WITH low power consumption. This quadrouple threat, especially the low-cost aspect, is attractive to consumers as well as computer manufacturers.
What has Intel been up to?
At the mid to high-end, Intel has done something similar with their Core series CPUs and the “HD” graphics recently. However with the Core vs. Llano platforms, they are actually (my estimates) 20-50% ahead on the CPU performance front and 35-75% behind on the GPU front. They are also doing well in the power consumption arena but are generally significantly more expensive than AMD.
Conversely, at the low-end with Intel Atom vs AMD Brazos/Ontario, Intel doesn’t fair so well. CPU performance is better clock-for-clock on AMD, GPU performance is drastically better on AMD, and cost/battery life are similar.
So, with all that said, should I care about AMD’s Fusion APUs and specifically the new Llano combined CPU/GPU? Yes, read on to find out why!
Is it still Intel = high performance & AMD = low cost… Same as always?
No, there’s something different this time: AMD is offering much better graphics performance than Intel right out of the box and at a lower cost to boot. The reason this is important is that in 2011 an average new computer’s CPU is generally already sufficient for most tasks that regular users perform. The same cannot be said for graphics if someone wants to play games or watch HD (1080p) video with super-low CPU utilization. AMD finally offers the graphics performance that people need if they want to do more with their PCs.
So, AMD delivers “good enough” CPU performance and, for the first time, integrated graphics that are also good enough for a lot of games out there.
Is the Fusion/Llano AMD setup the ultimate solution for high-end computer users? Nope, but it’s not meant to be. It is meant to hit that “Sweet Spot” of performance and value so they can sell oodles of their new chips. I am hoping they are successful and to do my part to cheer the on I am listing all the AMD Llano systems that I come across, right here:
List of AMD Llano based systems:
Gateway Llano laptops:
Nice 15.6″ system at a good price:
Gateway NV55S05u Laptop Computer With 156 LED Backlit Screen AMD Quad Core A8 3500M Accelerated Processor White by Office Depothttp://www.officedepot.com/a/products/661567/Gateway-NV55S05u-Laptop-Computer-With-156/#firstTabHigh-performance AMD Quad-Core A8 processor. Offers extra power to handle today’s complex software. Great for multi-tasking, too.Huge 6GB memory lets you run your most demanding programs. 640GB hard drive holds thousands of songs, photos and documents. Wireless-N (802.11n) for high-performance, cable-free networking. Lets you access wireless networks to share files, surf the Web and exchange email. Fully compatible with 802.11b/g as well. High-speed wired networking is supported, too. OFFICEDEPOT
Eleven HP Llano based notebooks
+Pavilion line: dv4, dv6, dv7, g4, g6, and g7.
+ProBook line: 6465b, 6565b, 4535s 4435s, and 4436s.
One of them is available at Best Buy now! Reports indicate they are in Best Buy stores and also available for shipping:
IN STOCK! dv6-6135dx – HP Pavilion Laptop / Quad-Core A8-3500M / 15.6 – BestBuy.comhttp://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+Pavilion+Laptop+/+AMD+A-Series+Processor+/+15.6%22+Display+/+6GB+Memory+/+640GB+Hard+Drive+-+Dark+Umber/2738329.p?skuId=2738329&id=1218348120631HP – Pavilion Laptop / AMD A-Series Processor / 15.6″ Display / 6GB Memory / 640GB Hard Drive – Dark Umber Model: dv6-6135dx | SKU: 2738329 – AMD Quad-Core A8-3500M
Many Llano laptops may not be available until August – The Tech Reporthttp://techreport.com/discussions.x/21202Many Llano laptops may not be available until August by Cyril Kowaliski 2:24 PM on June 28, 2011 We were lucky enough to get our hands on a pre-production Llano notebook… [...] readers comments show Best Buy ALREADY has a Llano notebook IN STOCK!
Toshiba new Llano systems in a range of screen-sizes (from 13.3″ all the way to 17.3″)
AnandTech – Annual Toshiba Refresh Brings Llano…and Some Stylehttp://www.anandtech.com/show/4449/annual-toshiba-refresh-brings-llanoand-some-styleToshiba’s Satellite is broken down into three different lines: the budget-minded C-series, the mainstream L-series, and the performance-oriented P-series. Starting from the bottom, we have the C-series, which launched earlier this year and currently offers AMD’s Zacate processors, from the C-50 up to the E-350. The only major update here is that Toshiba will now be shipping a 17.3″ model, putting a large desktop replacement notebook in the reach of more budget-oriented consumers.
13.3″ series starts at $499.99 and up
14″ L745 series starts at $449.99 and up
15.6″ L755 series starts at $483.99 and up
17.3″ L775 series starts at $579.99 and up
NOTE: AMD is using the “low-end” C series Brazos in some systems and the higher end Llano system in others… but these systems are all using Fusion.
AMD Llano Desktop Motherboards and CPU Prices
The Llano platform may prove to be a popular choice for system builders who want a low-cost rig capable of some decent gaming!
2011.07.05 Retail availability NOW!
(and another link for even more AMD Llano/Lynx/Fusion/FM1 parts @ NewEgg)
2011.06.30 AnandTech articles on Llano Desktop Parts, make sure to give these a read!
AnandTech – AMD A8-3850 : An HTPC Perspectivehttp://www.anandtech.com/show/4479/amd-a83850-an-htpc-perspectiveDiscrete AMD GPUs are well respected in the HTPC community, and the Redwood class GPUs have been used to override the Clarkdale’s IGP in many a setup. Can the Sumo wrestle the spot away from Intel HD3000 Graphics in HTPCs?
Triple Core Llano info:
Initial desktop CPU pricing info ($115-$135 released on July 3rd)
AMD’s Llano A8-3850 to cost US $135 & A6-3650 priced at $115http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/23237-amds-llano-a8-3850-to-cost-us-$135We managed to get our hands on what appears to be an official price for the upcoming quad-core desktop Llano part that should hit retail/e-tail just a day before the Independance […] The 2.9GHz A8-3850 has a US $135 price tag that is pretty much on par with what we saw in early listings. In case you missed it, the A8-3850 APU has a 100W TDP, 4MB of L2 cache and features Radeon HD 6550D graphics. The lower clocked A6-3650 quad-core APU should hit retail/e-tail on the same day with a price tag set at US $115. It has the same 100W TDP, 2.6GHz clock and features Radeon HD 6530D graphics.
Note: earlier reports (see below) indicated $150 or less… so $135 could definitely be legit!
ASUS F1A75 Series Llano motherboards (F1A75-V EVO & F1A75-V PRO)
ASUS usually makes solid motherboards that perform well, so it will be fun to see how these benchmark!
Asus Announces F1A75 Motherboard Series for Fusion Platform – Maximum PChttp://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/asus_announces_f1a75_motherboard_series_fusion_platform“The F1A75-V EVO is the world’s FM1 socket motherboard with dual x8/x8 PCI-Express for AMD CrossFireX support, while the entire range of Asus F1A75 Series motherboards are designed to natively support the latest USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gbps standards.”
Other features include four DDR3 memory slots, seven SATA ports, three PCI-E x16 slots, 7.1 channel audio, GbE LAN, eSATA, D-Sub, DVI, and HDMI.…
Gigabyte launches A75 series Llano motherboards (which according to reports* should all be under $120)
*the A75-UD4H. At launch, this will be their most feature-rich FM1-based product but it should retail for under $120 Source: hardwarecanucks.com
Gigabyte is fully onboard with Llano, there are a number of motherboards they are releasing:
And here are the links and photos… make sure to checkout the source articles, they have lots more great info!
Gigabyte A75-UD4H FM1 Motherboard Previewhttp://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/44259-gigabyte-a75-ud4h-fm1-motherboard-preview.htmlBefore the release of any new platform, we usually get a sudden rush of motherboards being sent our way. The upcoming introduction and availability of AMDs Lynx platform has…
First desktop AMD Llano chip prices revealed: quad-cores selling for $150 and less | ZDNethttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/computers/first-desktop-amd-llano-chip-prices-revealed-quad-cores-selling-for-150-and-less/6202For $150, the A8-3850’s four CPU cores run at 2.9GHz, and it packs a Radeon HD 6550D graphics core. [...] Fudzilla points out that these are preliminary prices, and we still don’t have any firm release date for desktop Llano parts, though it may be sometime next month. [July]
Preliminary overclocking results, for both processing and graphics, look great too!
[overclocking!] GIGABYTE A75M-UD2H with upcoming AMD APU breaks IGP world record :: TweakTown USA Editionhttp://www.tweaktown.com/news/20019/gigabyte_a75m_ud2h_with_upcoming_amd_apu_breaks_igp_world_record/index.htmlSpecifically we met the upcoming GA-A75M-UD2H micro-ATX motherboard from GIGABYTE, which is based on the AMD A75 chipset with support for AMD Llano APU processors, using the FM1 socket configuration. [...] We managed to overclock the AMD CPU from its default clock speed of 2.9GHz all the way up to 3.6GHz (150 x 24) using an FSB of 150MHz. In turn this also overclocked the DX11 Radeon HD GPU within the AMD APU from a core clock speed of 600MHz to 900MHz. This is really impressive and we even saw Crysis 2 running at 720p at around 40 – 45 frames per second and from a system without a video card (strange to look at, actually), that is rather good.
I wonder how Starcraft 2 will run on Llano, especially overclocked? It will be an interesting matchup vs Intel since SC2 is so CPU intensive… so how about we find out!!!
Here are preliminary Llano gaming results and benchmarks:
More articles about Llano performance etc.:
The AMD A8-3500M APU Review: Llano Is Unleashedhttp://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a8-3500m-llano-apu,2959-23.htmlIndisputably, the GPU is the most crucial component of AMD’s Fusion initiative, and Llano will stand or fall according to its graphics ability. Fortunately, the A-series APU…
AnandTech – Desktop Llano Motherboards: The ASRock A75 Extreme6 Previewhttp://www.anandtech.com/show/4447/desktop-llano-motherboards-the-asrock-a75-extreme6-previewBy now you may have already seen a lot of information leaked from AMD’s Llano presentations, as well as its desktop strategy. In the past few days performance numbers have been revealed as well. While we’re hard at work on our full review of AMD’s desktop Llano APU, we wanted to chime in with some thoughts on Llano’s desktop performance.
AMD isn’t ready to disclose pricing or the entire product matrix for Llano on the desktop, but what we do have is the high-end desktop Llano SKU: AMD’s A8-3850.
AnandTech – The Llano Desktop Preview: AMD A8-3850 CPU & GPU Performancehttp://www.anandtech.com/show/4448/amd-llano-desktop-performance-previewThe desktop Llano series is the mainstream jewel in the AMD calendar. As Anand has discussed, the Fusion APU architecture of AMDs plan is split between the Brazos platform (with Ontario and Zacate) of sub 18W processors with Bobcat cores, and the Lynx platform (with Llano) for 25-100W processors. The former has 1-2 Bobcat cores, whereas with Llano we’re dealing with 2-4 K10 cores.
(to be continually updated)